Some nice dps figures there Mall, thanks for posting.

For those that were not in beta, Voragath was extremely active in both parsing and feedback to the devs.

Alot of it was obviously ignored, but the effort was there.

I fail to see how you could be a usefull CL failcon?

You disagree with alot of the community, and more importantly, dont try to see their side of the issue.

Never see you in mage channel, possible different play times of course?

You dont attempt parsing.

These are definately good on raids.

Lets be clear though, no pet weapons will significantly impact your dps.

In fact unless stuffs changed since my beta parsing you wont even notice you have equipped pet weapons in your parses.

NPC not added, quest not LIVE that i can see.

Well suffice to say i was never a fan of his.

Anyways....

Its sad to think all weapons are useless other then agro/jolt this expansion.

And the reason there isn't much "consensus" is that Magician consensus was, for many years, what Kozvar & I decided. Others had a say in the matter, but we set the rules for how things were going to get done. That ship has now sailed, so the boat is completely at the whim of the Devel...

Dont think we got the pet stats this time nako, though it was asked for several times.

In the Raid game we need to relook at how we are veiwing ourselves. Yeah we are DPS, just not high on the food chain, but we have other jobs. Mage air pets are what most the guilds I have ever been in want, cause hey, who else stuns like an air pet. If you are a raid mage who doesn't have clerics s...

Soooo, its been raised in several places including the SOE boards, how do we get a new/extra class rep to help support raid mages?

Several good input mages on beta, my votes would be for Eanelder, Falore, Malleria, Voragath.