Vaddok wrote:Well based on thta idea then you and your pet combined should equal the tanking of the warrior because you share in the tanking.
Your idea that you should tank like a warrior and be able to out dps most classes is a bit skewed.
No, it's not skewed, I didn't say tank like a similarly geared/progressed warrior, I said tank like a group geared tank when the mage is end-game raid geared and has the
end game raid pet focus lol. There's a huge difference in power between, say a group geared warrior, and a raid geared warrior for example. And a mage doesn't share in the tanking. Tell me a single mage that can tank (without shared health, cuz that sends some damage to the pet, and can only be used so often anyway) a T4 named for anything more than a few seconds, or can even step in to take beats off the pet in T4+ to
share in the tanking with their pet.
Vaddok wrote:I think a mage pet should be able to tank but a step down from a real player, they should never be able to take over the role fully of a real player.
So what you're saying is that a level 85 tank in full archaic armor should be better than a mage pet that's focused by an end game raid focus?? The pet focus is what reflects how our pet is "geared". That is the progression of our pets.
Isn't raid geared vs group geared a "step"? I dunno, to most people group geared to raid geared is a pretty
huge step.
Also remember, a pet can really never equal the ability that a real tank can bring to a group for the fact that pets still don't have an agro snap ability, still can't tank with another in melee range, still don't have AoE agro abilities, still don't have a strong defensive, etc, etc. All I'm talking about is taking incoming DPS. Example.
Say we're fighting a random mob, and the T5 raid geared warrior is the benchmark. Also assuming both classes have maxed defensives. The numbers and percentages below are purely for examples sake, I'm not saying by any means this is how the numbers really work.
T4.5 Raid geared tank takes
700 DPS from mob.
T4.5 (EM VIII) Raid geared "earth pet" takes
840 DPS (20% more damage taken, equivelant geared tank still has a solid lead over the pet)
T5 Group geared tank takes
840 DPS (20% more damage taken, the same as the T4.5 raid earth pet)
T5 (EM II) Group geared "earth pet" takes
980 DPS (40% more damage taken, still gives the equivelant group geared tank a clear lead in taking hits over the mage pet)
See, comparing like geared tank vs mage earth pet always has the "step down" from a similarly geared real player tank. That's more what I mean more than anything.
I'm not saying for one instant though that mages should get abilities to start taking over other roles that real players have over pets like the ability of AoE taunt, snap agro abilities, etc.