The Magician's Tower

Thanks for the newest post Elidroth, very encouraging and the more to come part just is icing on the cake.

Calebe

Piemastaj wrote:The problem is that is a 2-sided way of working. Like I mentioned, Eli hasn't said much other then we need upgrades. Which is a well known fact by just about everyone in EQ. We can tone it down all we want, but the point remains none of our ideas are getting addressed in this thread, which is the whole point of the thread.

Yes, very good points that I agree with. Gonna add here: I am responding after his posts so I'm glad to see we've resolved this.

Piemastaj wrote: EDIT: Actually Vora that raid DPS thread is the one he stated we need more burst DPS in the form of spells. The mage class one is where it was changed to it should come from pets and spells.

I thought that's what I said. If it isn't or that wasn't very clear, I'm sorry. The word "change" though is what I did not say and was trying to say didn't happen. His later post, before this one and after yours, actually confirmed what I thought.

Calebe wrote:Thanks for the newest post Elidroth, very encouraging and the more to come part just is icing on the cake.

Calebe

It'd be icing on the cake if the boost to Fire Core was enough in itself.

I wish class balancing issues followed the same plan as content. Aim high and tune down later. Low balling abilities never works, because they end up not getting revisited later.

Thanks for the quick turn around and thumbs up for a great start. I'm sure we'll have some test numbers in soon so we can see where we are.

I just wish /testcopy wasnt broke atm, I cant move Pie over there to try and test this stuff out.

EDIT: I know I PMed you this, but anychance we can see a type 3 for spear added in also? Kind of a simple way to increase burst slightly.

I would love to be able to hit test as well and try out the changes that will be coming up.

qibrme wrote:

Piemastaj wrote: Plain and simple nothing DPS-wise is going to get done mid-expansion (atleast not anything huge).
Trust me, we do need it now, but it is just not possible.

Since Elidroth has been kind enough to post on our boards I would like to put the question to him.

Elidroth if you don't mind settling this question, is Piemastaj correct is his statement about nothing happening prior to the next expansion release?

Sued...

Elidroth wrote:IF nothing is broken or overpowered, the FC changes would go out in May.

Woot!
Keep ROCKING Elidroth

Could not ask for a better answer!

Sued...

Piemastaj wrote:Sven, if that was the case (heavy moderation) I would have had to edit Elidroth aswell. If your saying what some of us are doing need to be moderated, calling names and such is also a needs for moderation.

Yep, if such a thread/forum was created, then everyone posting in it would be moderated no matter who they were. The best case would be if the moderator was not taking part in, and was impartial with respect to, the discussion but that would be really difficult to implement on a class board.

Elidroth wrote: Fire Core:
Starting with rank 2, I'm increasing both the minimum damage bonus, and the maximum damage bonus.
Rank 5 now looks like this:
Min Bonus raised to 30% (from 1%), Max Bonus raised to 90% (from 70%).

This results in an increase from 35% to 60% (a 25% increase) damage bonus for Fire Core as sample size approaches infinity. As always, these values are subject to change depending upon testing results.

CHEER!

Elidroth wrote: IF nothing is broken or overpowered, the FC changes would go out in May.

WOOT!

Hopefully this is the only short term fix we need, because fire core refreshes often enough to be used on a each raid boss once, but not often enough to be used more than that.

Hey

Noob mage with a rudimentary grasp of the mage plight, though I fairly comprehensive understanding of just about every other class in or out of raid situation wonders: if you want to increase burst, and not severely imbalance group game, couldn't you just modify the Clash (think that's the latest incarnation) line of spells, and raise the cap on the number of hits? May be a bad idea for many reasons, but curiosity hasn't killed me... yet.

Dust-Vulak wrote:Hey

Noob mage with a rudimentary grasp of the mage plight, though I fairly comprehensive understanding of just about every other class in or out of raid situation wonders: if you want to increase burst, and not severely imbalance group game, couldn't you just modify the Clash (think that's the latest incarnation) line of spells, and raise the cap on the number of hits? May be a bad idea for many reasons, but curiosity hasn't killed me... yet.

That is one of the suggestions on the board.