master Spell idea list for new expansion

[deadman1204]

i dont understand the fear of a big nuke - we cast nukes. We are supposed to do alot of our damage with nukes

[qibrme]

Put Jolt back to the way it was before they nerfed the spell.

Let it land for the actual amount of pets on the mob without the limit.

Increase the mana cost so it is a "BURN" spell.

That would be our mana dump nuke option = our 170k crit equivalent.

I for one am not afraid of big nukes; I got my skis waxed for the slippery slope.


Sued...

[JerusEQ]

Put Jolt back to the way it was before they nerfed the spell.

Let it land for the actual amount of pets on the mob without the limit.

Increase the mana cost so it is a "BURN" spell.

That would be our mana dump nuke option = our 170k crit equivalent.

I for one am not afraid of big nukes; I got my skis waxed for the slippery slope.


Sued...

That would be absolutely insane lol. All swarm pets you would be doing like 100-200 hits on raids, so that's like 80000-160000 base without crit, spell damage or focus effects added in, i'm not opposed to that though! lol.

also I don't think it's scared of big nukes as much as just going for something with pets as it's more like a mage and less like a wizards, but /shrug I'm all for big nukes just figured another RS like pet woudl be easier.

[Sillaen]

It could work, but it would be one heck of a burn. You would be out of mana very quickly.

If you work it out using JoM Rk3 you get this: (I did a little bit of rounding so it might be off a shade)

I worked out the mana per hit if mana consumption was based on # of pets: 115.6/pet
Then I worked out the min/max/expected totals for 100 pets.

This is the outcome:
If a mob has 100 pets on it, under the circumstances outlined:

Mana used: 11,557 (base)
Fire focus (80%)

Min dmg: 81,100
Max dmg(if every single wave crits): 281,000
Average: 148,300

With the appropriate mana focus and tossing it into the Weave, you could theoretically spend 44.8K mana in 49 seconds amounting to ~877,660 dmg in that time. That works out to be 17,911 dps from your base weave (not including standard pet and activated pets/AAs).

It could be a great burn spell that would run you oom in under 50 seconds, well at least the way I calculated it.

Edit: Fun fact - What I outlined above was the average (expected damage). If every single dmg piece crits for ful (Go lucky RNG), you could be looking at ~40,850 dps for 49 seconds, all things being 100% perfect. Now that would be a burn.

[deadman1204]

I like the idea, but our burn spell should not be jolt. It would suck if it could only really be used in a raid setting. It should be something that can be used solo or grouped just as well as in a raid

[Merlaina]

I like the idea, but our burn spell should not be jolt. It would suck if it could only really be used in a raid setting. It should be something that can be used solo or grouped just as well as in a raid

Maybe an even more gynormous super pet than the RS line. Maybe Voltron or a hungry Rosie O'Donnel?

[deadman1204]

Pet Voltron - must have pet, rs pet, drake, and swarm pets. They combine and dominate!

[Voragath]

Pet Voltron - must have pet, rs pet, drake, and swarm pets. They combine and dominate!

Yes please. We are already OP anyway, wouldn't change a thing! It would just make raids more fun and give us zones to ourselves!!

[deadman1204]

1 man zerg!

[svenalo]

Can we get back to agreeing/disagreeing/whatever on the order/ranking of the master list? I would like to get that sorted out before fan faire...but I haven't had any feedback at all on that.

Also, can someone clean all the spam out of the thread?