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Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:43 pm
by Merlaina
Just curious, does anyone know the exact equation for spell damage? I don't mean the mod2, I mean I want to know the range of damage I can do with bolt rk 3, 90% fire focus, max nuke AAs, faycite shard, +200 spell damage, fire core, and flames of power all running at once. I searched the EQ forums pretty thoroughly for such a formula and couldn't find anything. I've poked around here some looking for it but thus far haven't been able to find it here either.
It's not a big deal, but I am curious what my max possible nuke is.
Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:46 pm
by Sillaen
I can give you most of that. I haven't updated my spreadsheet in quite a while. Let me see what I can dig up.
Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:09 pm
by Sillaen
Well like I said, haven't ran the tests to update in a while, but here goes.
Assuming the last 3 lvls of destructive fury follows progression, you'll have an 85% increase in critical dmg.
FoP will overwrite fire core when it procs - max hit at 100%.
As I understand it, faycite shard is just a base dmg addition to your critical hit.
You maximum crit under those circumstances using BoMS Rk3 is:
32,635
I haven't quite figured out how to work spell dmg correctly into the equation yet so that's not there.
Equation:
Max dmg = base * (1+focus+FoPmax) = 6778 * (1+.9+1) = 19,656
Max Crit = Max dmg + (1+DF15)*base + FS = 19,656 + (1+.85)*6778 + 440 = 32,635
I could be a little off with how the shard works into the equation, but that's the general gist of it.
Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:54 pm
by Zacatac
Sillaen wrote:Equation:
Max dmg = base * (1+focus+FoPmax) = 6778 * (1+.9+1) = 19,656
Max Crit = Max dmg + (1+DF15)*base + FS = 19,656 + (1+.85)*6778 + 440 = 32,635
I'm not sure that extra 440 for FS at the end should be there. It's already in the base calc of the spell in the 6778 number.
My best nuke soloing is 30,914
I'm not sure how I pulled that off really. But let's assume best case scenario as I rarely ever see 30k+.
Bolt Rk3 + 80% fire Dmg focus + Flames of Power + Faycite shard + and max AAs
Max dmg = base * (1+focus+FoPmax) = 6778 * (1+.8+1) = 18,978
Max Crit = Max dmg + (1+DF15)*base = 18,978 + (1+.85)*6778 = 31,517
I have +98 spell damage that goes in there somewhere/somehow.
Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:53 am
by Sillaen
Zacatac wrote:Sillaen wrote:Equation:
Max dmg = base * (1+focus+FoPmax) = 6778 * (1+.9+1) = 19,656
Max Crit = Max dmg + (1+DF15)*base + FS = 19,656 + (1+.85)*6778 + 440 = 32,635
I'm not sure that extra 440 for FS at the end should be there. It's already in the base calc of the spell in the 6778 number.
Yes, I believe you are correct. It's already in the base, so shouldn't be at end there.
Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:46 am
by Merlaina
Ok, so I thought I had a good grasp on this and then grouping with a bard threw me all out of wack...
On a raid last night I had a crit for either 54K or 56K (don't remember the exact number, but around there). Before this the highest crit I had ever had without outside help was around 30.5K. I understand Aura of the Poet adds 25%, and I didn't think it would stack with their focus song, but assuming it does that's another 25%. Let's just assume for a second that I've never seen my actual max crit and it's 32,500. 32,500 * 1.25 * 1.25 = 50,781.
Is there an AA or something bards can use to further this effect? Or will using the proper instruments increase the focus effect? It sort of blew my mind to see a nuke do that much and then realize that it came from me.

Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:30 pm
by Piemastaj
Were you by any chance doing Tower? A few events there grant increased fire dmg on certain mobs, which is more or less likely why you saw a 54k nuke. Otherwise I don't know how that happened, because we aren't in the ballpark of seeing 50k+ nukes, with the base of our bolt spell at rank 3 is only 6338.
Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:08 am
by Merlaina
I think it was on Queen Malarian, and checking the Allakhazam entry for that even the maggots appear to be weak against fire, and if memory serves it was during cleanup after the queen was dead that I got that crit. So yes, it was likely due to some innate weakness to fire from the mob. Thanks for clearing that up

Re: Equation for spell damage?
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:43 pm
by Zacatac
Merlaina wrote:I think it was on Queen Malarian, and checking the Allakhazam entry for that even the maggots appear to be weak against fire, and if memory serves it was during cleanup after the queen was dead that I got that crit. So yes, it was likely due to some innate weakness to fire from the mob. Thanks for clearing that up

Yes, the Queen event has some huge fire crits due to a special coded weakness vs. fire. I've seen wizards hit 100k there.