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new idea to control swarms

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:40 pm
by quseio
i was just wondering since a dev said the couldnt give us/shield (for redirecting of swarms), couldnt they give melee types a ae or raid wide reverse /shield ability call it share the burden or something and to prevent npcs useing it make it require a reagent that is only buyable in pok.

Possible objection it breaks mezes, couldnt they change mez to not break from 1 damage ? so warrior activates /shared burden maybe he gets a tiny bit of mitigation and everyone that accepts gets hit by 1 dmg which would be enough to let pets go after a new target

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:12 pm
by Zacatac
quseio wrote:Possible objection it breaks mezes, couldnt they change mez to not break from 1 damage ?
No, they cannot.

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:23 pm
by Piemastaj
If they do that we can't break mezz anymore with RmS. No ty.

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:54 pm
by quseio
id like a developer to say that they cant, and rbs is useually 5 dmg for me .. they could just up it a tiny bit and solved

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:48 am
by Malleria
Mmm, if they can't/won't give us a single target /shield (I don't buy its a 'can't', it already exists), the odds of tanks getting one for the entire raid is about nill. Tanks would be incredibly wary of using it anyway.

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:18 pm
by Shardin
the swarm pets should just follow your regular pet state

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:41 pm
by quseio
they said they cant because npcs would also use it i belive but my idea means they cant doesnt have to be entire raid could be grp only i guess

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:21 pm
by Malleria
quseio wrote:they said they cant because npcs would also use it i belive but my idea means they cant doesnt have to be entire raid could be grp only i guess
lol, what a load of crap. How does shared health work then? It'd be very doable to create an AA that follows the same principles as /shield or shared health and apply it to the current target. Yea it'd mean we have to target a tank, but who cares. NPCs already use /shield when given the proper flags (very common in older content), but they can't use AAs.

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:52 pm
by quseio
you know itcould be our pet doing the shielding actually and not us we are just telling them to do it in fact im preety sure thats how it works its always jobanaer begins begins to shield xxxxx mage being hit isnt it? ive seeen rbs do it extremely rarely

Re: new idea to control swarms

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:20 pm
by Malleria
Yes it is the pet performing a /shield effect on the caster. Still be fairly easy for them to simulate the effect through an AA, lots of examples out there.