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New AA Request From Eli

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It's been a week(ish) since Eli asked for a list of new aa's from the classes but I haven't seen one put together. I know there are other ideas in other threads but I started a fresh one for his request. Per his post on live, he want's ONE list from the ENTIRE class. No pm's, emails, etc from everyone and their mother. It's already been a week so get cranking and feel free to post other stuff from other threads here because we need all ideas in one place so we can shoot him one list. He had some guidelines which I'm posting here so you won't have to dig up the post on live:
Elidroth wrote: Time to think about new AA.

Yep.. it's that time again. Time for you guys to start collecting your thoughts about what you want from new AAs. I'd recommend compiling and vetting a list and submitting it as a class rather than just a random stream of PMs and such.

Some guidelines:

If an ability has a recast time shorter than 5 minutes, it's likely better served as a spell. Of course there are exceptions, but that's pretty much a guideline.
No refresh time on a spell can get any faster than 50% of its original cast time, no matter how much you want it.
Crit Chance likely is never going to be upgraded again.
Slows just aren't happening. We're not going to make them better.
"It's about time", "It's only fair", and "We've asked for it for X years" are NOT valid reasons for getting something.
Just because you ask for it, doesn't mean it's going to happen.


Oh.. and please please please.. one VERY SPECIFIC DETAIL I'd like from each class is what they'd like to see in a 4th Spire ability. I won't guarantee I'll make them, but I'd like very much to know where your collective heads are on the idea.
We can make a list and send it to him. I'll reserve the next post slot for such a list.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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Reserved for AA list*. Note to other mods: Feel free to edit and update this post as necessary with the list.

*Increase to overall crit chances and "pet kill" aa's will not be listed. The former was forbidden by Eli and the latter is abhorred by the vast majority of the mage community.

Piemastaj's list b/c I didn't see it earlier: (those highlited in orange either affect current aa's or are additional ranks to existing aa's)
--An AA rag pet for current expansion. Mana free, castable every 25 to 30 seconds or so. Partially solves our Twincast issue, it needs to be mana free because twincast gives us a mana free pet.
--Rod specialist AA. We cast them, so we should get the most out of them. Make it a 5, 10, 15% increase per rank.
--FBO: Increase the dmg modifier it gives more, also all the other stats could use a hefty boost so our pets don't fall even more behind. Decrease cast time. Reduce cast time slightly
--More ranks of ext Rumbling servant. We only have 1 now would like atleast 3 of those.
--More ranks of innate Twincast.
--AA that decreases the re-use time of our Improved Twincast line.
--AA to reduce the recast time on mage harvest spell.
--AA to reduce the cast time of mage harvest spell.
--AA to reduce recast time on Improved twin cast.
--AA to reduce reuse time on silent casting.

--New Levels of Fire Core to make the minimum focus 60% and max 120% or more.
--AA for Group call of Hero.
--AA to call one person in a Zone (there are no hero's here). Reuse 1 hour. To get the late straggler on certain events.
--AA to gate to pet.
--AA's to up Force of Elements. Let it Crit for 15k.
--AA to improve Host in a Shell, absorb more damage.
--AA to make the spell version of twin cast last an additional 10-15 seconds.
--AA to up the amount debuffed with aa sinia.
--AA to summon a Pegasus mount for a mage. Fun AA and let it be as fast as fastest horse you already own. (Pegasus is not possible)
--AA dispel/annul magic.
--AA to make the pet always come with velocity.
--AA to finally make gates stop collapsing.
--AA to reduce reuse time on drape.
--AA to improve upon fast casting. Reduce our cast times even more.
--AA to summon +100 mana + 100 hit points food/water 20 of each per cast. Mage only. Stat food buyable in SoE stores and mages always made food/water about time we make some of the bets but for us only so as not to be hit up for it all the time.
--AA targeted invis stone. 10 charges and 20 minute duration. upgrade to spell but targetable and with the stat food/water gift of Daybreak retired permanently.
--An AA for our Magic line of spells that does the same thing as Fire Core.
--An AA that extends the duration of our RS pet 100% with a five minute reuse timer.
--An AA that grants our group with an elemental proc for spell/melee dmg similar to enc/druid/bard lines, but stacks with them.
--An AA that makes our pet /shield our target.
--An AA rank for Drape of shadows that makes us invis directly after we use the ability.
--More Hastened Forceful Rejuvenation ranks
--A second rank of secondary forte. (To do what?)
--Passive or activatable AA that grants our swarm pets flurry/haste.
--An AA to reduce the cast time of our Malo AA.
--More Quickened Suspend Minion ranks
--An added rank to Companion's Relocation to make it insta-cast aswell as an insta-recast.
--An AA that lets us lifeburn our pet so to speak. Does X DMG to fluffy, doubles that amount and nukes the mob.
--AA to reduce global recast time (1 or 0.5 second)

Fourth Spire:
4th spire: Turned into a wizard type PD AA. Lacking big crits which really hurts us in the burst dept.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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When making suggestions for AA's realize not 100% will be for a DPS boost. we need those, but also make suggestions on non DPS that you would find useful. When we got aa's like call hither and our shadow step aa no one uses. At least our fluff can be useful.

New AA's just a few fast suggestions:

AA to reduce the recast time on mage harvest spell
AA to reduce the cast time of mage harvest spell
AA to reduce recast time on Improved twin cast
AA to reduce reuse time on arcane casting (forget the name one to lower aggro on casts)

More levels of Frenzied Burnout to up pets DPS a lot.

New Levels of Fire Core to make the minimum focus 60% and max 120% or more.

AA for Group call of Hero

AA to call one person in a Zone (there are no hero's here). Reuse 1 hour. To get the late straggler on certain events.

AA to gate to pet.

AA 4th spire or AA's to improve the original 3 spires. End result the same they get better.

AA's to up Force of Elements. Let it Crit for 15k.

AA to improve Host in a Shell, absorb more damage.

AA to make the spell version of twin cast last an additional 10-15 seconds.

Just a few quick idea's.

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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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Thanks Voragath. I made this topic global to be sure everyone sees it.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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The same list as we put together last year for HoT - nothing much has changed in what our needs are, and that list has pretty much everything in it.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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Ok, Eli sent me a PM saying he "ideally" wants this list in by next week. So, lets just get the ideas out there and we can put a list together by the end of next week.

Also, thank you, Jedis, for making it global.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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I've been talking about an aa to help boost how much mana we get from a rod. A set amount for each rank will make sure we can get an upgrade every expansion.

Also, an aa, which can be a part of the above aa, to reduce the damage we take from mod rods.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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An AA to Let force trigger Gorm procs... if thats feasible from a programming perspective

An AA to sacrifice our pet for an instant Group heal.
Or... Each pet type could have its own effect when sacrificed. enter your ideas here.
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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an AE stun ( 6 seconds ), an imploding effect for one large amount of damage, a fortify type spell for nearby allies, or a short term melee enhancement for allies. just some ideas
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Re: New AA Request From Eli

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Any ideas that involve killing our pets shuld never be brought up.
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