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requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:36 am
by nylrem
I now have the Urgak's Soothing Stone from the gold token vendor in Brell's Rest, and it is by far the best aug I have. It procced 31 times out of 100 dd casts, for a replenishment of just under 7k mana in 100 casts. I would really like any more information anyone might have to obtain more of these type augs or items with this focus in the group environment. I am currently tier8 and will soon have a full solid group of friends tier 8 qualified. I would prefer ones that proc off of dd's cast, because fluffy is often the tank in groups, my guild is very caster heavy :)

Please post any info you can about more items with this :)

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:14 pm
by nylrem
To answer part of my question, I found on alla that Fungalshock in Fungal Forest is supposed to drop Transcendent Fungus, a Symp. Alleviation VII aug, primary/secondary only slot 4/8, but I can't find any more info out about this mob. Anyone have a spawn/ph location and possible info on mob? :)

Thankee in advance

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:05 pm
by dorfillya
Can anyone verify if sympathetic procs and enchanter mana reiterate procs happen independently of each other? Or if one might block the other?

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:26 pm
by Gamanern
I can't say for sure, but I expect all the sympathetic procs work the same way. On my wizard I keep up re-iterate (single cast ... aura sucks with 2 hits only ...) and he has fire and the ice sympathetic procs, so he gets a lot of extra hits. From the log file for a single cast he got:

[Sun Jan 03 20:42:33 2010] Fenagar begins to cast a spell. <Wildmagic Blast Rk. III>
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 9615 points of non-melee damage. <-- Initial spell landing
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is blasted by pure wildmagic.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 271 points of non-melee damage. <-- Symp proc (cold)
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite shudders.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 4097 points of non-melee damage. <-- Re-it crit
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar delivers a critical blast! (4097)
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 1389 points of non-melee damage. <-- Second re-it
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is enveloped in recursive energy.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is enveloped in ethereal energy.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 1389 points of non-melee damage. <-- Third re-it (lucky round :shock: )
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is enveloped in ethereal energy.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 5518 points of non-melee damage. <-- Twincast - wildmagic is a random spell, casts 3 possible, so different emote on this to the initial spell landing
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is struck by the claw of Gorenaire.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 799 points of non-melee damage. <-- Symp proc crit (cold)
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar delivers a critical blast! (799)
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite shudders.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 1389 points of non-melee damage. <-- Re-it
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is enveloped in ethereal energy.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 271 points of non-melee damage. <-- Symp proc (cold) ... not sure why this one triggered ... unless it can trigger from a re-it, but I didn't think that was possible
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite shudders.
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] Fenagar hit a stonefist cenobite for 1389 points of non-melee damage. <-- Second re-it
[Sun Jan 03 20:42:34 2010] A stonefist cenobite is enveloped in ethereal energy.

Shows sympathetic procs and re-iterate from the same spell cast.

Hope this helps with your investigation.

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:08 am
by Mindrix
To see the Mana ones, you need to have turned Focus Effects on. Found this out trying to figure out if it worked or not.

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:29 pm
by Glaven
I presume that these can proc off of RS casts because of the 1 dmg nuke component? Second question: multipe sympathetic procs can go off at the same time yes? Third: given our mana regen woes as a class, are we better off equpping every possible slot with alleviation stuff vs the dd procs?

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:07 pm
by Raneern
Things like Wildmagic and Twincast somewhat muddy the analysis. Wildmagic is a spell that can cast three spells, so on the extreme you could see three procs, if three spells fire. For Twincast we're essentially landing two spells at the same moment. Under that scenerio you can see two procs. Ignoring those sort of outlying situations I haven't yet seen more than one proc from the Aug's with in a single non-twincast situation. I'd agree the mana one is the best. What I'm not sure is how the game prioritizes between a heal, mana and say DD proc, if each were to come to life and considering we can only have one fire per normal non-twincast. And these Augs stack fine with Mana R. or the Fire Tonics. But, Mana R. does seem to crowd out the fire tonics until the two hit counter is met (2 hit counter per 18 secs currently on the Aura).

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:35 am
by Redius
Raneern wrote:I haven't yet seen more than one proc from the Aug's with in a single non-twincast situation.

I've gotten both Fire VI and Lightning VI to land on one nuke. So it can be done, just highly unlikely.

Re: requesting sympathetic alleviation item info

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:33 pm
by Zacatac
Redius wrote:
Raneern wrote:I haven't yet seen more than one proc from the Aug's with in a single non-twincast situation.
I've gotten both Fire VI and Lightning VI to land on one nuke. So it can be done, just highly unlikely.
Also provided you have the procs on seperate pieces of equipment.