BP Clicks and Focus (Time Sensitive)

[Voragath]

There isn't a guarantee a change will be made or what it is they are looking for. Different classes have different things. The only thing I know they want is something they control so we won't be getting any "increase by x%" stuff; it'll be flat increase along the lines of "increase by x" type of stuff.

A good example was the buff that would make the next x spells do an extra y amount of damage. They can control that.

The thing to keep in mind when using clicky ideas is that they are going to mitigate that with a reuse timer.

[Summerfrost]

What about a robe focus that gives us added counts to our as twincast or more time on the spell?

[Magz]

First time long time etc.

op... Robe click

Really like the idea to mod RS. x2 damage output is nice idea but Under the click rs just becomes twin friendly. And see if this would lead to AA crossing force rej and this idea of the BP click. Or maybe to adjust to the other spires that no one uses..

Any content where elemental mobs are tough enough to see a BP click to spec us to that content. Aka pet enrage mod against element 200% or pet proc slow only against elemental/summoned mobs?

[Voragath]

SoD robe doesn't have strikes. It is like a mini FBO.

Which is why we went to the system we have now. You couldn't click it to add damage if FBO was running. What we wanted was something to use while FBO was running. Otherwise, you are just waiting to extend FBO with a lesser version of FBO. In the end, the SoD robe wasn't seeing much use.

[Voragath]

What about a robe focus that gives us added counts to our as twincast or more time on the spell?

They aren't going to touch twincast. It's a thing they keep under strict control.

[Voragath]

Also, I guess people don't realize the true intent of these bp's though some class bp's seem to diverge from their intent. The intent of the clicks are to be just a bonus; a nice little something extra for having it. The focus is somewhat the same.

Now, like I said, that's the intent so any changes aren't likely to be "omg awesome" and more likely to be "neat."

We'll have to measure our bp's against the other classes during beta.

Time: It is almost up but if you have any really good ideas, post them ASAP. The above ideas have been floated along.

[Piemastaj]

You are hurting yourself if your getting little use out of the SoD robe. You also forget the VoA robes require pets to proc for it to work, thus taking away potential VT procs. SoD is a better route for us, especially if we see another sustained expansion.

[Voragath]

You are hurting yourself if your getting little use out of the SoD robe. You also forget the VoA robes require pets to proc for it to work, thus taking away potential VT procs. SoD is a better route for us, especially if we see another sustained expansion.

Are you positive about that? It should read spell procs a lot like gear procs, by hierarchy. The only hierarchy I can see with spells is by buff slot. If you put VT on before the robe, you should be good.

I won't have time to test this until Monday at the earliest.

[Piemastaj]

So your ok with being required to have VT on first before a robe click? Your willing to risk a DPS loss in the robe alrdy (my robe post) then possibly another DPS hit if they conflict? Those robes are a waste of a click if they remain the same, mini-FBO suits us better. Robes won't be a Burst portion for us, and as they are now they are a DPS loss from SOD. I am also 95% sure the proc recourse from robes messes with shawl procs also, B/C they work the same. Also song procs are involved, simply too many procs out there that are better to justify another VOA type click.

[Nylrem01]

Know I'm quite a bit late for this, but anyway, my 2cp...

I'd just prefer an irrestistable instant nuke of X damage (preferably cold based, for circumstances, raid mechanics, etc that need cold nukes, combined with our frost clicky, add some options for us) on the robe click. Very controlled. It would be nice if it would be modded and crit, etc, but even if not, that would be my preference. We could use previous robes to prebuff pocketed pets still, and use current robe click for increased burst.

I would much prefer a damage focus to Spear line, for the focus. Preferably all spear spells, not just the current one. In current high group content when pet tanking, my first RS and usually second one is dead before their full time is elapsed anyway, and during raids, AE can take them out and they STILL have not done away with pet push, still making raids where I am not allowed to use swarm pets, sooo, I am definitely against continuing keeping RS pets as the bp focus. So, I would much prefer increased damage to our highest dps (excluding 'of many') nuke line. Or better yet, a focus that reduces the recast time of our spear line.... reduce it by 3, 4, and 5 seconds, depending on tier.