qibrme wrote:
It would have to be on a different timer than the current RS spell so that you could have two up at once within a second or two.
Yes. It would be on a seperate timer from original RS and it should be affected by forced rejuvenation. (RS > free RS > forced rejuvenation > RS > free RS). It would not be as fast as if twincast worked, but it would still get 4 pets up at one time in under 10 seconds and for the price of 2. It should also be on a seperate timer from twincast so that we can still get the effect of that on our nukes. I do not think this is overpowering because it does have a couple of downsides (another permanently dedicated spell gem, not as fast as if twincast worked properly).
It has already been pointed out that the spell is supposed to work, it just doesn't. They may be open to alternatives to get a similar effect though, which I think this would accomplish.
1. one because the initial answer was it's supposed to work so we have all been waiting for it and
2. because it took them 8 months to even getting around to telling us they weren't even interested in bothering
From what I gathered from Sklug he had to check to see if it was even suppose to work on a twincast, then looked and say that it would be a massive code change. My guess is Rytan knew about the issue, and didn't tell Sklug about it. So when I bought it to his attention he looked into it and said would be a huge change.
Is it possible Rytan already knew that and decided it was not worth the time to fix, and let it drop? That is my guess, and I doubt anyone followed up on it till I asked Sklug about it. I had an answer within a day of asking. It is very easy for a dev to say nope it won't work, the code is old and to make that change isn't trivial, and sorry.
I am sure Rytan would have no problem saying it as it is true. As he didn't odds are good he wasn't asked about it after expansion was launched or if he was, he never answered, and it was dropped. I only broached it from my thread on the expansion and thought I would find out the status and well got the news we all dreaded but figured would be the result. In hind site if we had the option of what code changes we would have preferred twincast on RS pets or Ghold I would have opted for twincast for the RS pet. I do appreciate the work they did, and they didn't know the twincast issue till after the fact.
Malleria wrote:QFT. Didn't they tell us they intended it to work?
No, they made Twincast, and then we told them it didn't work on RS.
We made the arguement that wizards can use their best spells with Twincast, while we cannot use one of our best.
Devs said "Yes, I see your point. But since it requires massive code changes. . . "
It never worked in Beta, still doesn't work now, and might never work. It was never promised to us that we would get it.
It was said they would look into getting it to work. From my talk with Sklug he didn't even know if it was suppose to work on twincast. Maybe he knew and forgot as so long ago, but the point remains, no one has looked at it in a long time, and apparently wasn't even being asked for so long he forgot (unless he never knew). As he is the main coder and would be the one to make the changes the fact he didn't know says no one was even asking about it anymore.
So my thought lets find out the status, see what is going on, and when I did I got the answer. Massive change needed to make it work. Personally that would have been the change I would have taken over any form of Ghold, but that is only one persons opinion, and maybe more prefer ghold. I have no idea but we weren't even asked which option we would have preferred if we were to have a choice.
The majority didn't know that this would be such a hard change, in fact was led to believe it would be looked at after the expansion released. I knew it didn't work on twincast at the time as I was in Beta, but it was said it would be looked at, and that was the last anyone heard. Now we have a definitive answer. Knowing Sklug if he has time and can slip it in now that he is aware of it, I am sure he will. He won't promise it, and rightly so as he may not be able to. If he can I am sure he will. At least he knows of it now, and the mage community concern. It is a start in the right direction.
