BP Clicky, which is best

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Ronis
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BP Clicky, which is best

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So, Im trying to figure out which BP clicky is the most net DPS:

#1) SoD group T5
#2) UF Vitallium
#3) SoD Raid T4.5

I dont have the Raid 4.5 yet but its coming soon. Can you guys offer ranking input so I can decide if its worth my time to farm a Vitallium BP clay just for the clicky itself.

Thanks,

Ron
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Re: BP Clicky, which is best

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T5 Group
Slot Description
2: Increase AC by 115
4: Increase Haste v3 by 20%
7: Increase STR by 28
9: Increase ATK by 385
10: Increase Chance to Hit by 11% with All Skills
11: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 60%
Duration = 2 ticks

T4.5
Slot Description
2: Increase AC by 115
4: Increase Haste v3 by 20%
7: Increase STR by 28
9: Increase ATK by 385
10: Increase Chance to Hit by 11% with All Skills
11: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 60%
Duration = 4 ticks

I don't have UF BP but it looks like it adds a 1500dd (chance = ?) to spells, and 1500 proc for pet (again unsure of proc rate). They all share the same recast type (16) and all have a 10 min recast timer. If you're close to 4.5 I doubt the UF robe click will be more dps. CoA robe clicky is almost as good as 4.5, plus it doesn't share the recast type, and has a 5 min recast timer.

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The UF clicky will stack with FBO where the others do not.

The UF clicky is a buff on your pet where he procs a buff on you that adds 1500 dmg to your next spell OR it can just do 1500 dmg to the mob or something to that effect. The proc mod is lower than the CoA robe or iceflame etc. so you won't see it too often but it lasts for over 2 mins and I'm guessing is then also modded by any buff extension aa's we have. That's at tier 6. I think Wire knows how often this thing goes off and how much damage it does. The highest tier should be about 25k dmg over the course of the buff. So, about 200-210 dps.
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Just found this by Wire during UF Beta testing. He was trying to get stuff moved and whether it was or not, I don't know. It does tell you what the BP does and gives a good idea of it's limitations.
Wire wrote: Right now each click effect adds two offensive melee procs to the Pet in slots 10 and 11. That meshes well with most of the procs we currently use:

Slot Effect
1 Primal Fusion
2 Iceflame Tenement
5 Talisman of the Lynx
9 Second Spire of Elements
12 Third Spire of Elements

It appears as if the only difference between the click effect at different tiers is the hit limit on the amount of procs. What's weird is that each click effect actually calls different procs - but they all do the same amount of damage, 1500. If the hit limit stays, a shorter duration buff with a higher procrate might be better to get the damage out there more quickly and let other effects like 2nd Spire or Iceflame do their thing afterwards.

The first proc buffs the caster with a +1500 spell damage effect for the next spell cast. This sounds good in theory, but it will not stack with things like Talendor's Aura (+740) and Second Spire of the Minstrels (+500), so in a lot of raiding situations (I'm mostly talking about the raid BP's) the overall effect is going to be halved. Would moving this effect to a different slot allow it to effectively stack? 17 hits x 1500 damage = 25500 in theory. If you add in the fact that spell damage may not stack, the overall effect could be around 12750 from 8.5 average melee procs and 6460 from 8.5 average spell procs under Talendor's. That's potentially only 19210 total damage at UF-T8 raid.

I'm somewhat concerned about the overall DPS output of these BP's, since they're on the same timer as the SoD BP. It does give us a nice stacking ability which we can use on top of Frenzied Burnout while maxing, but on longer fights or in groups/soloing situations, Mages might still use their SoD raid BP over this UF-T8 raid BP. They'd almost definitely use their SoD raid BP over the UF-T6/7 BP's, or any of the UF-T9-6 group BP's.
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Re: BP Clicky, which is best

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Thanks guys. I appreciate the help - Ive fallen way behind on my mage and your advise means a lot.
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