CoH pulling?

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Re: CoH pulling?

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nako wrote:CoH clears agro on CoH-recepient's pet too?
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Yes but not RS or Swarmers
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When you get coh'd your pet clears aggro as well. At least in my experience, but he has to be on hold or not attacking or hell just get it back.
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Danille wrote:
nako wrote:CoH clears agro on CoH-recepient's pet too?
-nako/saryrn
Yes but not RS or Swarmers
Are you sure it doesn't clear aggro from RS as well? I haven't done it in a while, but a few times I tried breaking up a stubborn group by casting Yowl at the Moon at one and trying to run the others off. Didn't work very well because the whole group tended to gang up on the ragepet rather than follow my beast. In any case, when I tried it I never had the mobs follow me back after CoH, just my werewolf meandering back alone.
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I never tested it out personally, but the general idea would be since we have no control over RS or swarm then we can't tell them to back off which would mean they should still be attacking the mob we sent them on regardless if we are CoHed. B/c, when we get CoHed it drops aggro on us since we are not engaged on the mob by melee or nukes, but the RS pet/swarmers should still be attacking the mob. Only thing I could think of is maybe you got oor of the mob so much that your pet warped near you or something, otherwise I don't see why the RS would have stopped attacking the mob.
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Tried this with another guildy mage last night and it worked fairly well (at least as advertised). We did have some issues with mercs healing the pet I was using for pulling and then going splat shortly thereafter, but simply setting them to passive or assigning the puller as puller should fix this. We were trying to train the room with the hand for the FoS illusion mask task. I set my pet at one end of the room in guard mode, and then ran myself to the other side. Group was placed at the end with the pet. I told my pet to attack something at his end, then /back off and /follow so he ran through the room with mobs in tow to me, creating a train. However after he got smacked a little the mercs healed him, and when the other mage back in the group CoHed me and cleared aggro the train of mobs went after the mercs. Fortunately the mercs ran after my pet as well, so when they were killed it was away from the group and no PCs were harmed. To add insult to injury most of the room trained out, but not enough to be able to loot the hand in the middle. Boo. We eventually just had to do it the old fashioned way and kill everything in there.
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You've got the idea ... now just use a fire pet instead of a melee pet.

Pet rune will also help. By the time the mob eats thru rune the others should be out of aggro range even if your clerics do decide to heal him.

You can kill and unsuspend your real pet once your coh'd. Just make sure the other mage has sent his pet in before hand. Also, sit aggro is your friend when telling your pet to attack.
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Sometimes fire pet isn't the best way to go, atleast for me. I normally like the pet to hold their attention some before i ask 4 a CoH and if they are busy with an air pet or earth pet it gives the mage some time incase something happens like lag. With fire he is rooted where he casts so pretty much that is raped soon as he nukes.

I normally suspend my main pet like Ean, then just bring him back out when we are ready to kill.

And no doubt, make sure you use Aegis on your pet as well.

Make sure your merc is on passive, or else you will have some massive trains lol.
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Piemastaj wrote:Sometimes fire pet isn't the best way to go, atleast for me. I normally like the pet to hold their attention some before i ask 4 a CoH and if they are busy with an air pet or earth pet it gives the mage some time incase something happens like lag.
But don't forget if your the one being coh'd there are 2 mages. The second mage can send his air pet while hes cohing you or as soon as its safe to do so without getting aggro from the mobs your training away.

I find the Fire pet is the best because there is little chance for him to die while gaining intial aggro since hes at a distance. It just requires space and proper positioning between you, your firepet and the CoHing Mage.
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I needed a mobile pet since the idea was to train the air pet through the room with mobs behind, aggroing other mobs as he came through with them. For that fire would not have worked. In the attached image you'll see the plan. I have the pet attack mobs by him and then tell him to follow so he trains through the room.
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Re: CoH pulling?

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I see ... but, thats not coh pulling.

Thats training a room and using CoH to save your butt :P
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